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Old 10-28-2012, 01:56 AM   #1
 
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Default Grease as Heat protectant?

I know grease has been getting a bad reputation for just about everything to do with curly hair. BUT.... i will say this... it is the ultimate sealant! and guess what ... a pretty good heat protectant ( if you don't mind greasy hair ... which i don't)
what we all fail to realize is that petroleum products have a high capacity for heat, and work as a great heat protectant for hair.

In fact, petroleum jelly is the only approved heat protectant by the FDA (at least for skin)
Initially, black hair care products used petrolatum as heat protectant, and honestly growing up I do not recall ever having hair scorched or burned, or even problems with curls not reverting. (My hair was butt length until I got to sophomore year in H.S. and cut it off to stop being teased and to "fit in" with the crowd).

I currently use these types of products(specifically blue magic) to straighten my hair and have no problems with heat damaged curls. I set my flat iron to 350 -400 degrees at the max (hair burns at 451).

My question to you all is
how have your experiences been with it at a protectant ( i know we all used it that way at some point our lives)?
did your curls revert?
other than the greasiness was their ever a problem with using it as a heat protectant for moderate heat straightening (no excessive heat eg. more than the burning point of hair 451 degrees)? ... honestly i believe that this is wear most went wrong with it as a protectant... too much heat! everyone wants to set their flat iron to the max heat when that much heat is definitely not necessary IMO.



but yeah... ready to read what you guys think and possibly hear some of your theories and research on the matter. ps. check out this link.. Synthetic Oils to Combat Dry Hair - Learn | Hair Liberty :: Free Yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ddKzX4etY
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:31 AM   #2
 
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Not sure if this helps, but the pic is from the book "the science of black hair" by Davis-Sivasothy, p172. Maybe this will help see what protects hair best. Grease as Heat protectant?-imageuploadedbycurltalk1352122289.930011.jpg
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:25 AM   #3
 
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My mother used Blue Magic as a heat protectant when she would press my new growth (with a stove pressing comb) between relaxers and as a natural today she uses it as a protectant to straighten her own hair...and suffers no heat damage (that we have seen ) . I, myself, have not tried it but plan on doing so in the future....
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:43 PM   #4
 
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I used to love grease to press my hair. My favorite one to use was apex pressing oil. I no longer use it as i prefer higher quality products but i would still recommend it to anyone who likes something nheavier to straighten their hair.

Im not sure i would call it a heat protectant though lol
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:26 AM   #5
 
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My hair would seriously rebel. LOL, it would be like straight but stiff from the grease! Thanks for sharing though
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:04 PM   #6
 
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Wow! I never would have thought about using grease... That sounds really neat. I may have to try it sometime! Could you use like... a straight petrolatum product like vaseline or something? (A bit too heavy for my hair, imo, but worth a try)

I have something similar to blue magic with petrolatum and coconut oil... Hmm... the more you know...
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:39 PM   #7
 
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This totally depends on your hair texture. for Caucasian types it would be out of the question but some 4s would drink it up like its a light snack and then ask if you want to put on a little extra to enhance the slight gloss just a bit. I know my partner who is a 4c uses castor oil on his hair and It is about the ONLY thing that will keep his hair from looking totally parched and completely dried out and then it still dries out in a few hours. However when I use it on my fine 3b/c my hair looks totally wet and way too thin. then again, my hair is already on the thin side so it doesn't take much to make it look like I have 2 strands on my head.

So hairs respond totally differently to different methods of moisturizing and protection products. Also amount has a LOT to do with it. I can use the castor oil as a leave in product too if I put just a few drops literally in my palm and evenly distribute it in my palms before I put it on the ends first and then evenly through out.

So I say "whatever works"
if it works for you then you shouldn't care about Sally whose hair is too fine for it. She uses the viscosity and oil/moisture balance that's appropriate for her and you likewise.

REALLY, I think that you should try to switch to heatless methods as much as possible. My grandmother had 4a/b hair and she got relaxers and wet sets exclusively. Yes she did use coconut oil, jojoba oil and some others to keep the hair soft and shiny but she never used heat at all. Her hair grew to about below shoulder blade length and stayed there all of her life looking shiny and healthy. But she ONLY used relaxers and wet sets on huge rollers. The Dominicans kind of go this route too. So I think that would really be your best bet instead of looking for a heat protectant. I would try to work into heatless styling. MAYBE only use the heat around your edges when its time for a touch up after the wet set is dry.
SO.... instead of flat ironing why not look up "silk wrap" on youtube. It is a technique that can be used on wet hair to straighten it using the head as a big hair roller. You stretch the hair straight around your head and tie it up with a silk scarf overnight.

Also look up hair wrap techniques on youtube. Because you can also use a variety of other wrap techniques (depending on hair length) on the hair every night when you go to bed to preserve the hair in a straight state so that no heat is needed for styling in the morning. Rather you wake up, take off your silk scarf and your hair falls down around your shoulders silky, shiny straight and healthy like it was just flat ironed .... only it actually feels healthy instead of fried. (for long hair look up criss-cross wrap)

Ive just started this regimine myself and let me tell you... I am floored and totally in love with wrapping my hair instead of blowing it straight. I never used flat irons. I use a japanese straightener every 3 months and wrap every night. 2 nights a week I wrap with plastic cap and tight scarf on top for a green house effect. Im trying to grow from arm pit length in the back to as long as I can go. I wont get there using heat though.

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Old 04-25-2013, 06:35 PM   #8
 
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Why are folks so afriad to use hair grease all of a sudden? Yes its the best heat protectant you can use. I've been using it for over a year now with absolutely no problems..I love my blue magic
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:59 PM   #9
 
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I could never use hair grease because my hair is way too thin and non-porous, but I looked at the ingredients of Blue Magic and you might as well just put straight up Vaseline in your hair. Maybe mix it with some Lansinoh and baby oil.
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