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Old 02-09-2013, 07:38 AM   #1
 
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Default Back again after 4 plus years of CG.

Hi everyone! I've been away but have kept what I learned here busy. Just updating my progress, was pretty active here in 2008.

Here is how my hair was before CG around 2006.


After going CG in 2008:


And now after growing it out - 5 years later:


Thank YOU Naturally Curly dot com!

I've updated my folki. I live in Italy so don't ask about the North American products I use. They (naturally curly dot com) don't ship to Italy (unfortunately!) so I am not using them. It's all in the routine IMO and products that are similar, no-shampooing and products without silicones - as well as homemade or natural concoctions.The CG method has totally changed my life. I love curls and am so glad I am a CG and don't have to deal with straight hair.

Enjoy!

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Old 02-09-2013, 08:13 AM   #2
 
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I remember you. Wow, how beautiful! What are your growing secrets?
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:26 AM   #3
 
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Ditto curry curls!! Dish..what is the routine, what do you looks for in products...
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:43 AM   #4
 
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Lovely curls!
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:51 AM   #5
 
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I remember those curls! Still lovely.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:43 PM   #6
 
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I remember those curls! Still lovely.
This. Wow. Probably the most beautiful hair on the site, IMO.

ZZ, I agree that it's mostly in the routine. I avoid oils like the plague and swear by plopping and pixiecurling.

Care to share your current styling regimen?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:49 AM   #7
 
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Gorgeous! I remember your photos from the before & after CG thread, your hair is just beautiful.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:48 PM   #8
 
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Welcome back I remember you; your curls are gorgeous!
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:48 PM   #9
 
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Welcome back! Your curls are definitely remembered around here. In the Before/After thread you get a lot of compliments IIRC.

Great to see you around!

Gorgeous curls!
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:00 PM   #10
 
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Ha, looking at the background in the first picture I thought "that looks like Italy." Guess I was right. Great job on the hair, it's beautiful!

Typing on a giant phone - there will be funky grammar and typos.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:12 PM   #11
 
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So, so beautiful. The curls, the color, the scenery... everything. I'm happy for you!
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:22 AM   #12
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Beautiful!
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would you mind briefly writing out what you do to your hair if it doesnt take too long? like your styling routine, overnight, etc (only v. briefly of course) sorry if its too much to ask, its just your hair is beautiful!
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Old 02-13-2013, 02:15 PM   #14
 
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Hi everyone! I've been away but have kept what I learned here busy. Just updating my progress, was pretty active here in 2008.

Here is how my hair was before CG around 2006.


After going CG in 2008:


And now after growing it out - 5 years later:


Thank YOU Naturally Curly dot com!

I've updated my folki. I live in Italy so don't ask about the North American products I use. They (naturally curly dot com) don't ship to Italy (unfortunately!) so I am not using them. It's all in the routine IMO and products that are similar, no-shampooing and products without silicones - as well as homemade or natural concoctions.The CG method has totally changed my life. I love curls and am so glad I am a CG and don't have to deal with straight hair.

Enjoy!

Zigazaga
Woow...what a transformation.
Beautiful naturally curly hair!!! I have the same experience myself. I have 3c hair and have been following the cg-method for a year now with low-poing (sulfat- and silicone free) once or twice a month. I definetly see the results in form of more moisturized and defined clumped curls. My hair is actually pretty and i usually get a lot of hair-compliments all the time :-)
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:28 PM   #15
 
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Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:37 PM   #16
 
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Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!
WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
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Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!
WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
Agreed!^^ your hair is gorgeous and I like the length in the second pic the most also for the same reason.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:41 PM   #18
 
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Thank you for all your compliments! Really.

I am thinking of chopping it all off to about the second picture. Any thoughts? I would love to share what I do but at the moment I have a lot of other things calling me. I will be back and do so!
WOW, JUST WOW!!! While I think the current length is absolutely gorgeous, I personally prefer the length in the second picture. My reasons are: easier to detangle (less time spent in the shower), requires less product, dries faster and more volume due to less weight.

Can't wait to hear what your routine is!
Agreed!^^ your hair is gorgeous and I like the length in the second pic the most also for the same reason.
Plus, I meant to also say (as well as the other reasons mentioned), your hair in the second pic is every bit as pretty as your current length. So I'd say go with whichever length you're most comfortable with.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:26 AM   #19
 
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I'm back. Sorry for the wait.

I get so many people saying to me "Don't you dare ever cut your hair". So I am still up on the chop off idea but it certainly has become a lot of work time-wise. But I do like some of the benefits too. Okay here is some of what I do.

After all the trial and error in the beginning I seem to have found the right products and technique for my hair. I keep about 8 jars and bottles of various conditioners (plus flax seed oil spray) in my shower. I rotate products all the time never using the same ones for long. I instinctively know when my hair needs protein or not, oil or not, something light or something heavy, just by how it feels when wet.

My hair had way too much protein in the beginning (very stiff dry hair) so I cut out the protein completely for about 6-8 months or more....until I found out I did need protein (limp hair) but not all the time. My hair loves silk protein, less likes wheat protein, doesn't mind keratin. I also did a lot of home made DT's, way less now.

Cleansing routine:

No silicones for me. I used to do my hair twice a week, but now with this length I end up waiting a bit longer, I do get at least three great hair days and a couple of so-so hair days each time. With the length I can easily do various up-dos when it is less than perfect.

I co-wash mostly with a very basic low-cost conditioner (it has coconut oil in it, kinda like Suave)- takes about a half a bottle but it only costs 1 Euro a bottle, but I have others I use that are a bit more expensive in my rotation and sometimes I combine them. Once in a while, like twice a year I do shampoo my hair with Neutrogina shampoo for mineral build-up since my water is so hard. I ALWAYS mix it in about a cup of water first, this is so it does not touch my hair in an undiluted form, for more even distribution plus I am able to use less and get the same results. I do oil the ends first, but often the reason I use shampoo is because my hair is so oiled and gucked-up in the first place (like at the seaside during the summer). I tried the so called more gentle shampoos containing coco betaine etc, but my hair hated it - it felt like fiber glass! I don't use shampoo bars because of my hard water....unless I want dull hair, which I don't!

I then wide tooth comb my hair with the co-wash conditioner under running water which helps the hair slide down, sometimes using a goody ouchless brush that does not snag my hair - it slides off the knots if they are big and does not snap hair and sometimes I have to add more conditioner on the way. By the time I am done detangling my hair is thoroughly rinsed out. I then use a more consistent conditioner, sometimes with protein, sometimes an acid balance mask with protein, sometimes something heavier that has oil in it but no protein. I leave that on while I do other things that need doing. :-) Then rinse out well.

Sometimes I'll add a bit of light conditioner as a leave in on the canopy, sometimes I finish with an AC rinse (haven't done that lately - think I will try it again) and sometimes I put a few drops of flax seed oil (which my hair LOVES) in my palms, and rub the ends with it. One final rinse and I am ready to get out of the shower sopping dripping wet. No towel drying or blotting for me.

Sleeping and oils:

I use satin pillow cases and do a loose pineapple on the top of my head, knot the length around in a very loose bun and clip it in place with a claw clip. In the beginning I would often do a big oiling the day before cleansing. I haven't been doing that anymore. My hair likes most oils, but loves shea butter, flax seed oil and when I finally tried olive oil (it's a food for me in my mind ) it love it. Coconut oil is fine, jojoba is totally out and not good. I can tell if my hair likes one oil or the other if it feels softened, if it feels stiff or comes out oily looking then it does not like it IMO. But I rotate oils in any case - once again! And mostly use them in the Summer or seaside vacations.

Next time I will write about trims, summer and the pool/sea and the styling routine - and whatever else you might inquire about. :-)


Hope this helps someone. And have a lovely day!
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:24 PM   #20
 
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I LOVE that you know your hair like an old childhood friend
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